06/10/2026
🎙️ NEW PODCAST DROP.
Jason speaks with Park Howell, the host of *The Business of Story* podcast.
If your agency messaging sounds like everyone else's...
That's because you're probably making yourself the hero of the story.
And that's exactly why prospects tune out.
In this episode, I sit down with Park Howell, founder of Park&Co, branding expert, storytelling coach, and host of *The Business of Story* podcast, to break down why most agency messaging fails to connect.
The biggest mistake?
Talking about your process, services, and credentials instead of focusing on what your clients actually want.
Park shares a powerful framework called:
And → But → Therefore
A simple storytelling tool that helps agencies clarify their positioning, create stronger proposals, and connect with prospects on a much deeper level.
We also dive into:
• Why your client should be the hero and your agency should be the guide
• How Hollywood storytelling principles can help you win more business
• The three forces of trust every story needs to create
• Why emotional outcomes outperform tactical messaging
• How to make prospects feel understood before you pitch a solution
One of the biggest takeaways?
The agencies that win aren't the ones with the best pitch.
They're the ones that understand their clients' struggles better than anyone else.
Listen to the full episode with Park Howell wherever you get your podcasts.