10/20/2026
Steven Heller has spent a lifetime watching design change.
From the underground press to 33 years at The New York Times, from paste-up and print to AI, Steven has had a front-row seat to the evolution of design, technology, culture, and visual communication.
Our conversation on Design Of went far beyond graphic design. We talked about curiosity, history, propaganda, responsibility, confidence, AI, what we choose to preserve, and what happens when the tools we know disappear and something new takes their place.
One of my favorite conversations of the season.
Listen to the new episode of Design Of with Steven Heller: https://www.rule29.com/podcast/the-design-of-seeing-the-world-through-design-meet-steven-heller